Rem 722 222 rem mag heavy barrel

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fish_guy10
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Rem 722 222 rem mag heavy barrel

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Hello, I am a collector of 721/722 and ran across a heavy barrel 222 rem mag. We are in the process of moving and all my books are packed away so I can't lay my hands on my copy of "The Remington 700" to see how many of these were made in 1952. I already have a 222 mag in ADL but, as any 721/2/5 collector can sympathize, I've always got room for one more.

Thanks in advance for the information.
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Re: Rem 722 222 rem mag heavy barrel

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None. The 222 RM didn't come in the 722s until 1958, maybe late '57!
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Re: Rem 722 222 rem mag heavy barrel

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Hmmm. Everything looks correct. The serial number matches to 1952 and the barrel stamps appear to be correct. The provenance is pretty solid as well as the original owner documents that he special ordered it in 1952. Thanks for the info.
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fish_guy10 wrote:Hmmm. Everything looks correct. The serial number matches to 1952 and the barrel stamps appear to be correct. The provenance is pretty solid as well as the original owner documents that he special ordered it in 1952. Thanks for the info.
To be 1952, the "Year" part of the date code would have to be "YY".


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Re: Rem 722 222 rem mag heavy barrel

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This is the only stamp on the left side.
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Re: Rem 722 222 rem mag heavy barrel

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If it was a Remington (factory) barrel, it would have "Remington Arms Co. Inc. Ilion, NY Made in USA" and all the rest of the typical 722 impressions immediately to the left of the caliber stamp. It SHOULD also have the barrel date codes immediately ahead of the receiver on that (left) side. AND, it should have the barrel "hump" (for the rear sight dovetail) about 4.5 inches ahead of the receiver. Is there no "hump"? Is there no cutout in the stock for the "hump"?

If none of that is present, it's probably been re-barreled and maybe restocked.

Without a wide shot of the whole gun, it's hard to say what's "factory" and what isn't. Lots of people have posted pictures of guns from that era thinking they got a high-grade or custom shop gun........when all it was was a restocked, rebarreled and/or highly modified/customized firearm.

If you're a "collector" of the 721/722 firearms, you should know what they typically looked like and when the calibers were chambered.


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http://www.remington.com/products/archi ... l-722.aspx

Introduction Year:
1948

Year Discontinued:
1962

Total Production:
Approximately 118,000

Designer/Inventor:
Merle "Mike" Walker & Homer W. Young

Action Type:
Bolt action

Caliber/Gauge:
.222 Rem. - .1950 - 26" & 24" barrel
.222 Rem. Mag. - 1958 - 24" barrel
.243 Win. - 1959 - 22" barrel
.244 Rem. - 1956 - 24" & 22" barrel
.257 Roberts - 1948 - 24" & 22" barrel
.300 Savage - 1948 - 24" & 22" barrel
.308 Win. - 1956 - 24" & 22" barrel

Serial Number Blocks:
11,000 – 430,0000

Various Models:
722A - 1948-1962
722AC - 1949-1955
722B Special - 1949-1955
722 D Peerless - 1949-1959
722 F Premier - 1949-1959
722 ADL - 1955-1959
722 BDL - 1955-1959

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fish_guy10
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Re: Rem 722 222 rem mag heavy barrel

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Wulfman. Don't be an arrogant ass. While I have a complete collection of 721/722 and other memorabilia I've not yet handled every one manufactured nor all of those that came out of the custom shop. The provenance on this one is rock solid but there are a few things that concerned me, hence, my visit here. For friendly advice, not condescending prattle.
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Re: Rem 722 222 rem mag heavy barrel

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fish_guy10 wrote:Wulfman. Don't be an arrogant ass. While I have a complete collection of 721/722 and other memorabilia I've not yet handled every one manufactured nor all of those that came out of the custom shop. The provenance on this one is rock solid but there are a few things that concerned me, hence, my visit here. For friendly advice, not condescending prattle.
Oh, good grief!!!
I didn't have and still don't have any way to gauge your knowledge of the subject you posted about, but when you categorized yourself as a "collector", you seemed to be putting yourself ABOVE the rest of us concerning your knowledge about this category of firearms. And, with your second post, responding to the date they were introduced, your knowledge seemed to be in question about the dates, serial numbers, etc.

While I have an "accumulation" of a variety of 721s and 722s, I don't consider myself to be a "collector" by any stretch of the imagination (and the sources around here dried up years ago). Same thing with 700s, too. There are far more knowledgeable folks on this forum about any of these categories than I am. They've written books about this stuff.

According to the list I posted from the above Remington.com link, I have an "oddity" in that I have a "factory" 722 in .244 Rem. caliber with a 26" barrel. And, while it's a somewhat heavier barrel than one typically finds on a 721/722, it's not what one would call a "heavy", "bull" or "target" barrel. It also has open sights on it. But, the list doesn't suggest that a 26" barrel in the .244 Rem. caliber was ever made. Yet, I have one. I even tried to bring this discrepancy and question to Remington's attention about a dozen years ago (long before I found this forum), but they've made no acknowledgement to the fact or changes to their website in this regard.

I was HOPING you would post a full-size photo of the rifle. We don't even know what you mean by "heavy barrel".


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Re: Rem 722 222 rem mag heavy barrel

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Any earlier factory caliber stamping roll marks I've seen have all said "222 REM. MAG.". Your barrel shows no sign of factory stampings. Even thought custom shop guns may not have a date stamp, they, I believe, have to display the proof marking, "REP". What serial number range is yours?
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Re: Rem 722 222 rem mag heavy barrel

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That roll mark of the caliber looks just like the one on my early 40x. It was made around 1960. Possibly someone put a factory 40x barrel on your 722 action. Threads are the same, and it would be a simple job for a gunsmith with a 222 mag. reamer.
As an aside, I too had a 244 722 with a 26 inch bbl. It was the same contour as my 222 rem 722. I have seen several of these at gun shows.
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